Remember the good old days when people could get a job in the auto factory and make a decent living?
And how about pilots and crew members of major airlines? Remember when these were great jobs with good pay for crew members and great pay for pilots?
Well those days are gone.... see what the hero "Sully" had to say about his financial situation over the last few years.
And if you think Obama is going to improve this slide, you know with hope and change... forget about it! His policies will accelerate the decline.
My Canadian friend responds....
I had to dry my eyes several times, What BS. Pilots in Canada and in the States make good money (see below at bottom of post). As for the auto industry they are overpaid, have big pensions and BIG medical plans. In Canada the people with small salaries are the military(not including Majors and above).
Obama is not the messiah, so don't expect him to turn the mess he was handed into GOLD, overnight. Negativity will only make thing worse. This is the time for the USA to work as a unit and not pull itself apart.
Good Luck in the turnaround.
My question to pilot friend....
Looks like an old salary chart to me as it is my understanding the salaries of yester year are gone... what say you?
My pilot friend responds.....
Exactly true. Salary I was paid flying 300 people on an Airbus A330 over the North Atlantic was less than I was making in 1985 flying 112 people in a B737. Retired 2006. I'm talking absolute numbers of $, no inflation factors thrown in the mix. In addition, pension fund was looted by management for personal benefit (federal prosecutors investigating now), and pension promised over 34 years of loyalty to company is being paid at about 42% of the numbers promised all those years. Really threw a monkey wrench into financial planning only two years out from retirement.
I agree with Sully in that I don't know of a single pilot flying for a large airline that would recommend his children follow in his footsteps. Hey, but you can buy a ticket for only $59 on sale. You get what you pay for. Ask the folks on the commuter in Buffalo. It used to be one of the most sought out professions out there, now most in it can't wait to leave. Don't get me started on the idiots in the FAA and TSA and their clueless BS....
Sully was in a younger pilot group at time of pension termination, and he will get less than half of what I ended up with. And the CEO seems to have bought his $9M house using our pension fund. We have
the paper trail where the fund was looted by his management team.
Tell me where the medical plan is... My medical was cut off at forced age 60 retirement, and was told COBRA was available for $2k a month (about half the pension), otherwise had to fend for self until 65 when Medicare would kick in. Age 65 retirement for pilots came in '07, but guys over 60 would only be allowed to work if they started at the bottom of the seniority list again. And those who retired in the 18 months prior to the new law would not be allowed to come back at all.
Our old CEO's would make somewhere south of $1M per year. Last three for the company were averaging $8-12M/yr and left with payouts of $50M+, after leaving the company in Chapter 11. Twice.
Your friend Phil obviously has a case of salary envy in his dead end job, in addition to not having a clue what he is talking about or having current information.
Steve
Retired USAirways
International Captain
Salary data presented by my Canadian friend....
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